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The Vision of a True Sadhu

 

We have experience You were talking about how birth in Bharata-varṣa, is the most fortunate birth. But in India of course people have so much natural inclination to come to the temple, and to engage in kīrtan but many times people would say, “I have already hearing these things, I have heard, I know it. I am already knowing this things.” Whereas in the West there is less inclination to come to the temple but many times people are more willing to hear, and try to assimilate and understand. So from your experience, which place is actually better?

The śāstras say Bhārata-varṣa is better. You see, even demigods want to take birth in this country. Prabhupāda has said, many. I said. Bhārata-varṣa is such a land that I am saying I’ve not finished. I’m answering your question. But, I said, yesterday I said the levels of consciousness, you understand, five levels of consciousness are there. The highest level of consciousness is to develop complete Krishna consciousness, you understand, that is the goal of human birth. And such congenial atmosphere is available in India, yes. And those who have taken birth in India, they must have great sukṛuti. ..sukṛuti, otherwise how have they taken birth there? They might have taken birth in Congo area in Africa, or Eskimos in Greenland, yes … wait, wait, wait, wait… but, but, you have been given all these things in spite of that you aren’t taking advantage. So the sādhu mahājana, his heart bleeds, he says, “what sort of life he is leading? Leading a life of cats and dogs, hogs”. Running after sense gratification and not thinking of paramārtha.” Yes. Do you understand? They are running after the sense gratification, material enjoyment, “Alright, alright, alright, I’ll enjoy, I’ll enjoy.” Yes, Western country. The people have gone to the topmost platform of enjoyment. The demigods you see, demigods, have you gotten more enjoyment than that of the enjoyment of the demigods? No. So ample is there, that is bhoga, bhoga yoni, do you understand? Yes. You follow me? But so many enjoyment, material enjoyment is here in the West. The people are enjoying so some Indians become allured, “alright I go to that land. So much enjoyment is available.” Isn’t it? Indians coming, yes, population is very, so many Indians are here in Boston, 40,000, 40,000. He said. 

In America some Indians also. 40,000 in Boston, in North America! Indians are coming, they are allured. But what opportunity you have been given and what you are doing? You understand? One must think about what śāstra and what Mahājanas say. “O yes, alright, let him first enjoy, enjoy it, enjoy it, then I’ll see.” But you should understand, you may not get such opportunity again, you may not get such chance to take birth as a human being and especially to take birth as a human being in Bhārata-varṣa. Āra bharate manusa janaman hoite na hoy In another song, Bhaktivinod Thākura or some Vaiṣṇava they say, Bharata manusa janma na hoy ki na hoy- you may not get such opportunity to take birth as a human being again in Bhārata-varṣa. Now you have been given the chance and you are missing the chance. You follow me? Their heart bleeds seeing this thing. So all mahājanas, Bhaktivinod Thākur says, my Guru Mahārāja says this thing. They are thinking, ‘O yes I know, I know, Bhāgavata, I know this thing.’ “If you know, why are you running after this? You know this thing and you are running after this material sense enjoyment, baba!” Enjoying, enjoying, enjoying eating stool. The Westerners they have already enjoyed, gone to the topmost platform now they have spitted it out. They are spitting out, “this is not good, let us, they are turning their face towards it, ‘so let me have this thing.’

In other pastime of Śrīla Prabhupāda, the devotees in Vṛndavana, I forgot which temple I think it was Rādhā-Ramana. And the Brahmins there said, “You are performing kīrtana very sweetly, very nicely. Keep this up, keep this going maybe in your next life you will be able to be a pujari in the temple here. And they came back and told Prabhupāda and he said, “You should have told them they should keep up their nice beautiful pujari work and in the next life they can take birth in the West and engage in sankirtana.”

Yes.

Actually…. previous missionary, when they go to India, and they were trying to prove out how the Vedas are false, so many things actually they are not very interested in religion that is cutting their knot. Therefore now in so many schools always exclusive  …even if they read Bhagavad-gītā.

They cannot understand it, baba. They think they understand. Unless we hear from the proper source, this tattva-vicāra. There are so called scholars, so-called great scholars, pandits, philosophers, but what they have no faith, they have no faith, ‘O, this is mythology, this is not reality.’ Yes. This is mythology, not reality? They cannot understand. “What is that Kurukṣetra? What is this Kurukṣetra?” Kurukṣetra is a small place near Delhi. Kurukṣetra is a small place near Delhi, it is mentioned….. how the Kauravas on one side, eight hundred akṣauhiṇīs soldiers on the Pandavas side and besides that, so many elephants, horses, drummers, so many. How many? So huge! We cannot calculate how this place accommodated? Is it true? No, it’s not reality, it’s mythology.” You understand me? They cannot understand the līlā of Krishna Who can do and undo things, Who could show His Universal Form. In that Kurukṣetra there is one chariot on which Krishna was driver, Arjuna was sitting, Krishna was sitting on that place a charioteer occupies. So in that chariot Krishna showed the Universal Form! The whole universe! How it is accommodated. They cannot understand. ‘O it’s mythology, it’s not reality.’ They cannot understand it, such powerful līlā wonderful līlā of Krishna unless one understands in tattva.

 

janma karma ca me divyam
evaṁ yo vetti tattvataḥ
tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma
naiti mām eti so ’rjuna


Bg 4.9

 

That Krishna has said in Bhagavad-gītā, “My birth, My activities, are not material, they are transcendental. One who knows it in truth, in tattva, then his birth will be last birth here, last birth here. One who knows this thing in tattva, after quitting his body, he goes back to Me.” punar janma naiti - no rebirth. He will never come down here again to take birth again. That is the goal of human birth. Unless you understand it in tattva, you cannot understand. You will say apparent consideration. We have two types of consideration, apāra-vicāra, tattva-vicāra apparent consideration and absolute consideration. And our all discussions are based on absolute consideration, tattva-vicāra, not apāra-vicāra. One must approach a tattva-ācārya, one who is conversant with tattva.

 

tad viddhi praṇipātena
paripraśnena sevayā
upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ
jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ


Bg 4.34

 

It says tattva-darśinaḥ, who is the seer of the Truth, one is the knower of the Truth, who knows the Truth in tattva, who has seen the tattva. advaya-jñāna-tattva, vraje vrajendra-kumāra. That Absolute Truth, advaya-jñāna-tattva, vraje vrajendra-kumāra. The son of Nanda Mahārāja is the Absolute truth. One who has seen Him and knows Him in tattva, go and approach such a person, yes, take shelter, Pranipāta, paripraśna sevā. Take shelter, surrender to him, take shelter at his lotus feet, serve him, please him, then humbly inquire, inquire tattva-jijñāsyā. Then out of mercy he will impart this tattva-jñāna. By the mercy of such a tattva-ācārya guru then you can understand. Otherwise you can’t understand. So this is, you understand? They cannot. Yes?

Some persons who were followers of Chaitanya Mahāprabhu, sometimes they criticize the preachers… Criticize?

Sometimes they criticize the preachers, and prefer to go to Rādhā-kunda and take initiation from some Bābājī there they follow some of the descriptions given by Visvanātha Cakravarti Ṭhākura or Bhaktivinod Ṭhākura, Narottama Dās, like that, and meditate on the manifest pastimes of the Lord. So I wonder, that seems bonafide because it is given by some of the ācāryas, What would you say relatively how we are to compare the position of the preachers and the persons who want to go to Rādha-kunda and do like that? 

You see, there are two types, goṣṭhy-ānandī and bhajanānandī, you understand? goṣṭhy-ānandī and bhajanānandī. Those who are preachers, they come to the human society and preach, you understand? They preach. Their heart bleeds seeing the suffering of the people here, jīvas here, so they come down to this platform to preach because this is the only means for deliverance this kṛṣṇa-katha, bhāgavata-kathā. No other means is there. You understand? They come. They are on the highest platform, they are paramahamsas, you understand, but they come down, they step down to madhyama-adhikārī stage. Otherwise they cannot preach. Those who are paramahasas, uttama adhikāris, they cannot preach, no. In their vision, in their vision all are sādhus, all are sādhus. Jīva’s svarūpa is kṛṣṇa nitya dās. They see the svarūpa of jīva is Krishna Dās, he’s a sādhu, he’s a bhakta, he’s a Vaiṣṇava. You understand? They see that. They see everywhere Krishna.

 

sthāvara-jaṅgama dekhe, nā dekhe tāra mūrti
sarvatra haya nija iṣṭa-deva-sphūrti


CC Madhya 8.274

 

He sees moving and non-moving, do you understand, objects, but they never see the outward form. Such paramahamsas, they see their ista-deva, only Krishna. They see only Krishna. So they cannot preach. They are always engaged in their bhajana in a solitary place in Rādhā-kṛṣṇa temple. They are, you understand, they never come down. But it is not easy thing, it is not an easy thing to become bhajanānandī unless he has developed such vision and sees Krishna everywhere. And he’s completely absorbed in kṛṣṇa-prema, you see in the ocean of premāmṛtāmbho-nidhī, you understand? It is not easy thing, you see. Such rare persons. They are very rare persons. Again, such persons, if they feel pity, “O no, these persons, such jīvas are suffering. Let me go and deliver them.” So they step down, they step down. They step down, they come here and preach and they accept disciples that means they increase the number of their goṣṭhy, goṣṭhy, group. They are goṣṭhy-ānadīs therefore. Their heart bleeds, their heart bleeds. Yes. And they are on that platform, but they have stepped down. Their heart bleeds. And they train, they accept disciples, train them to carry out the mission, missionary work then they retire. Then they retire, go to Rādhā-Kunda, Śyāma-kunda and do their bhajana. Alright?

Śrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ṭhākura he wrote a song about what is his bhajana You were saying in Vṛndavan….

I said who does. One who is paramahamsa only he go, do this thing. Otherwise he cannot do that. Tomāra bhajana kevala kaitava Yes. That, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ṭhākura said, tomāra nirjanera ghare, in a solitary place if you are doing bhajana, your bhajana is only cheating, kaitava, kaitava. Then he says, prāṇa āche yāṅra se' hetu pracāra he has life, so he’s preaching! He has kife! Not light discussion. prāṇa āche yāṅra se' hetu pracāra he has life, preaching like a lion! Like a tiger! Kṛṣṇa-kathā! He gives kṛṣṇa-kathā! He preaches like a lion! Roaring like a lion! Yes! This Bhāgavata-kathā!.. Yes, he feels pity for others, his heart bleeds so he comes out preaches. Yes. Jai